Thanks. And yes, I saw that in the tracked revisions.
I understand that. But what I was trying to point out there is that if this goes to vote and fails, then going to the BB after the community has voted against it, optics aside, will likely not yield the intended results. Which is why I was explaining that for such an amount to the tune of $2.3M - especially given current market conditions and DAO sentiments - it’s probably better to first go to the BB (which is specifically setup for ApeChain growth), and then if it doesn’t make it through (there is a review process first to determine the viability. And if it passes that, then it goes to the 5-person committee for a vote to execute), then you can take your chances with a DAO vote. The benefit to that is, unlike the public nature of proposals going through the DAO, the BB won’t make such a submission public - unless you or your team makes it public first. Hope this makes sense.
For example, I have a $5M AIP-487 proposal to build a community platform that’s currently going through the DAO vote. But I put that up back on July 8th, long before the BB even had it’s application process online - which didn’t happen until July 22nd. I have thus far opted not to withdraw it; and I’ve stated that if it fails the DAO vote, that means, notwithstanding the influence of whale wallets, the community probably (I can always be certain of this by pulling the post-vote results) didn’t want it. That being the case, I won’t then go around the community vote to run the BB gauntlet as that’s just terrible optics. And I created my project specifically for ApeChain and the community because, due to timing and other commitments, I am unable to migrate my in-progress Web3 game projects to ApeChain. And so whether my proposal succeeds or fails at vote, is immaterial. But I would very much like to see a proposal like yours go up on ApeChain because it’s impressive while not being primarily focused on the much-maligned Web3 gaming scene atm.
The downside of running the DAO vote gauntlet is one of timing. For example, because my proposal is at # 487, it likely won’t go to vote and obtain results before the middle of Sept or even later. Your AIP is going to be in the same boat because by the time the ideas period ends, it goes to draft, then admin review, then to vote - that probably won’t happen before Oct due to the current list of proposals that came before it. Even if AIP-451 (which, among other things, shortens the voting period) passes. And in that timeframe, you would likely have received an answer from the BB in a much shorter time period.
Just some things for you to consider. The choices are yours to make; but I believe that it would be easier to make them if you are well informed - especially since you are new around here.
Most projects that come through here fall under that criteria. And even the best ones that garnered community support by way of these discussions, tend to fail at vote. And that’s why we consistently poke fun at our voting system and DAO frens due the erratic voting patterns.
The BB vote isn’t relevant here. Just because they voted for the BB doesn’t then mean that they’re also going to vote for proposals either here or through the BB. Also, there’s no obligation for any author to do anything. If that was the case, we wouldn’t have the BB which is a $100M (probably about $45M now) carve out from the treasury. And you don’t have to adjust your roadmap. As I’ve indicated above, your roadmap is already affected by the process itself. And so, there is no benefit or detriment to the roadmap in whether or not a proposal goes through the DAO vote or the BB.
No, I am not saying that. I was explaining to you the pros and cons for each option so that you understand the process. If you want to send a $2.3M proposal such as this through the DAO vote or through the BB, that’s entirely up to you.
btw, I don’t see how your proposal gives back $1.6M to the community. From your own numbers, it’s a lot less. In fact, all things being equal, those incentives are much higher than whatever gross rev goes back to the treasury. For an example of a successful program that does precisely what you are looking to do in “giving back”, please take a look at ThankApe.
Also, something to bear in mind; with your own numbers, your group had a pre-seed round of 50.000€ - all in. And so, with a $2.3M ask, the valuation (even for a seed round) should be heavily favorable to the DAO. The revenue that this proposal is giving the DAO, doesn’t do that. I just thought I’d mention this because you will be dealing with that if you go through the BB which is geared toward commercial revenue generating agreements. And I am all but certain that other voting entrepreneurs here and who tend not to publicly opine on proposals, have probably observed that aspect as well.