APE Support (Counseling?)

Sometimes when people most need help, they don’t even know where to begin.

  1. It can take a long time to find and get help, and then to find out maybe that person or support group meant to help but can’t relate or worse can’t even empathize… that’s very cold and can make things much worse.

  2. Unique challenges exist for people who are go-go-go builders and creators working long and unusual hours, physically crunched into devices while accumulating the health and emotional issues that come from it, for people who experience wild swings in personal fortunes, big wins and big losses, building things only to watch those crumble at the vote or mint, working in a field or medium that few can grasp and even fewer respect or take seriously.

Add rugs, hacks and bears… oh my! Not in Kansas anymore, with no roadmap to go by.

Let’s discuss some form of resources, referral service, maybe a counseling firm on pay-go retainer, that understands exactly these types of personalities, challenges and issues, or can better explain it to your loved ones. A number people can call where they’re already understood with no need to explain.

Let’s make it an AIP?

Possibly this needn’t even be funded in any way and it’d be enough to have a FAQ on the forum with numbers to call in different parts of the world.

In the “real” world a lot of jobs come with counseling as a benefit but many don’t have such benefits - or a job, it can take quite awhile to finally be speaking with someone, the first talk is half spent onboarding, signing waivers and explaining your trouble, and in the end that person may have no good idea how to help with these specific challenges… it can all feel a bit like a rug if you’d been looking forward to a breakthrough.



Any mental health professionals, or similar here that can comment? Or other ideas from anyone? Help writing an AIP?

If there’s no input here I’ll contact some of the firms that provide group access for employers & such to suss logistics and pricing.

Am thinking we can do something more bespoke & particular though, esp. if there are counselors or firms that specialize in the issues noted above that are common in our community.



I think mental health is such an important part of long term success. I really love what you are looking to do here.

At this point in time, I’m extremely busy with WG0 and ApeComms, but would love to contribute in any way I can. I don’t know any mental health professionals in the space who are focused on the issues you mentioned directly, but may know people who do. I could ask around…


Hey @br00no

Check out these fine folk - they are worldwide volunteers and bringing their support services to Web3:


Peace - SSP


I appreciate the responses very much, and welcome any others.

Will follow up on HeldMind.

I don’t have a specific plan or goal with this, but will learn what’s possible.

Kind-of keeping the red line pinned myself lately so … inching this along.

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I completely agree with the importance of mental health specifically in web3/remote working. Add on that we have a culture of seeing just our pfp’s and we don’t even see human faces during the normal web3 working day!

I wonder if a lot could be done with consciously designing a culture that is supportive of mental health. For example I have really enjoyed the hangout time in the lounge in discord and ones played a bunch of games with a few people. It makes for great bonds and these friendships have to be good for mental health.


Thanks for the push @br00no

Indeed an incredibly important topic and one not talked about enough. Even more so in crypto. Even more so in this current market. Even more so in growing a dynamic DAO on Discord w 24/7 availability and a fast pace.

I was part of an initiative like this at my former employer and bring experience in good formats etc. in a work setting. Obviously we’d need to make it ApeCoin-native vs. web2 tech world.

In any case, would love to be part of any group forming on this @br00no, @SSP, @adventurousape, @hangout


Awesome. Thank you.

Please post any suggestions on how this could work.


NICCE! Exactly what I was thinking, in terms of utilizing existing organizations that provide this service for Web3 and beyond. And maybe Do an AIP to partner with them to provide xxx services to our DAO members.

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