Great to hear @Halina.eth.
Based on a previous post, I’m putting you down as co-founder of Chinese Apes Club - would you also be holding events in the Bay area or in various locales?
Do you think you, @Lost and @CryptoLogically will end up setting-up a local Web3 Group (especially if the IRL Events proposal passes) or will the Twitter Groups suffice?
Looking forward to seeing this, I know it’s been a long process and you’ve constructed something with consensus across regions, it’s exciting.
Like @Halina.eth mentioned, we have the Twitter group - not much for Discord yet. The BAYC community event that @CryptoLogically coordinated with the Bay Area apes was incredible, and safe. The ape community attendance(100+) at that event showed real interest and a demand for more local activations. I think it will make sense to develop a larger and more coordinated group to include the existing ape community, their +1s, and eventually many more. Happy to help in anyway with the usual push for greater awareness, education, and participation as this unfolds.
Can’t wait,
Lost
Amazing to see how much effort you put into this @ssp1111
This already seems like an extraordinary effort to determine what type of event is most wanted!
My biggest concern was the <1% participation in the survey, so one could argue that the results of X participants are random to some degree. Just to get the full picture, can you tell us how many participants ended up taking part (and apologies if I missed that!).
That being said, imo you’ve gone as far as you can, and with landing on the middle ground (between one big event and dozens of small, scattered events), we’ll have the flexibility to move in one direction or the other of the spectrum. So it looks like we should just give it a try and then revise based on lessons learned.
Excited to see how this will turn out! And as you rightly say, getting some people on board with IRL event experience could be good. Happy to connect to two people I have in mind who organized one of the biggest NFT conferences in Europe + one of the biggest web3 conferences (40k visitors). Lmk if helpful! 
Bernard 
Agreed. We have clearly demonstrated that there is not only a strong Ape community here in the Bay, but a contingency of individuals eager to meet up, create, and be involved in IRL events. These things are what truly drive community, as I see it. Especially when we extend this pool to $APE holders and not just “Ape” holders, those potential resources naturally expand.
Addressing our areas of strength (networking, presence, localized individual skill sets, etc.) as well as our areas of need (suitable/affordable venue access, catering possibilities, scheduling, etc.) will be an area of focus as we develop the Bay Area/Northern California regions.
This is excellent idea and great to see it in motion, my apologies for not getting involved in dao sooner just too much on my plate as I build a house. I feel while a festival style weekend like apefest that is an all day festival for fri-sunday with holders as VIP but open to general public and powered by apecoin is an ultimate goal. Charging vendors to sell merch, control the bar and ape merch, (vip area for holders) but general public can come and see a 90’s lollapalooza type show with multiple stages and sideshows of various talent? anyone remember Jim rose circus? Music from punk to edm and all genre in between
I toured on multiple festivals in the 90’s and so much fun to be had, before large giga corporate takeover of the whole scene
if we could get the vibe of independent makers and offer vending at affordable price (in Apecoin) we could have a more inclusive festival what ruined many festivals was greed selling spots to too many vendors saturated the market, and price hikes made it difficult for smaller business to come in and sell unique goods. Brands like Hot topic became the norm and made the festivals cookie cutter experience
Find unique makers and small businesses stay away from big chain stores selliing ( not that you cant have a couple sponsors but make barrier of entry for small business and artists to sell their wares on a level of electric forest or Bonnaroo
get diverse talent to appeal to a diverse audience with different vibes for different stages
Bored and Hungry, apewater 
and other ape brands for food and merch
priority vending for ape holder brands of course but get the unique makers/vendors from the region and put out word through multiple channels
Art installations! Back in the day I made art installations at Coachella and have a circle of friends at Burning man with large sculptures and ability to put them on site for a fee… many of us got paid to create projects at Coachella after first building for Burning man
Lots of options happy to bounce ideas but I think lots of paid artists to exhibit, ape branded foods and drinks wine whisky and beers are plentiful even cannabis if feasible from half-bayc nft
lots of ideas I’m happy to reach out to artists network to help curate exhibitions graf walls etc but paying artist is important
Heyo @SandmanNY and welcome to the forums.
Glad to have you here as an OG Ape, artist and event professional.
I had hundreds of dms, convos and ideas shared with me over the last six months as I ran the IRL Events Study and while I’m choosing to go down the path of supporting 100’s of smaller, local meetups and get-togethers championed by local ambassadors, I absolutely think that your idea of a larger festival is worth pursuing.
My own original idea was for a Web3 Village & Festival held in a “Park and Walk” venue in SoCal that basically encompassed an NFTNYC during the day with a 'chella at night - obvs there’s more to it than just that, but you get the idea.
@Novocrypto has a large event in the hopper, it’s not a festival but it’d be the largest IRL event proposed to date. She’d be someone great to get to know and to discuss event ideas, especially as her event is planned in a terrific venue in NYC.
I’ve also been working with the team that founded Bonnaroo (you most probably already know them) that’s where much of the Macro Trends data came from. I’d be happy to involve you in those conversations as there seems to be a fair amount of overlap.
Keep in mind the softness in the market for new, untested festivals as detailed in our slides above – not a hurdle, just something to bake into the financials.
Stop by the ApeComms Spaces on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and say hello and feel free to dm here, on Twitter or Discord. Thanks again for taking the time to post your thoughts and ideas.
Cheers,
SSP 
Decentralized IRL Events Network
My goals and mission for all IRL Events powered by the DAO are to bring more builders and other NFT project founders and members to the ecosystem, to help bridge more mainstream users to Web3 and to have the endeavours and activities conducted with $APECoin as much as possible. Hence the thousand seeds across the world idea.
Totally get that smaller is going to easier to pull off and if we are operating as the DAO and not yuga best to keep it small and build bigger. just throwing ideas out as i’m late to the game a bit, I am not an “event Professional” per say but rather a “Proffesional Artist” with loads of event experience and friends in the biz. I get hired to perform at events and feature my sand paintings and installations My links look forward to hearing more and contributing as I can
Thanks for the shout out and for your contributions @ssp1111 . It’s been great learning more about what you’re building. 
@SandmanNY here’s a link to my AIP from last year which is now being revised and revamped as a 3-day event focused on both building and socialising/music/entertainment
Happy to answer any questions 
TWA Hotel is great. sounds a bit pricey and exclusive but I support it. I was thinking more in terms of ways to engage public non holders via music festival with vip perks for holders. I have no idea in terms of production costs etc. not my jam… My only concern in both NYE or a festival is the loud alchohol components. Sure I’m down for a party but I’m also down for quieter meetups where we can learn more about each other and do business networking building synergy of ape talents and business opportunities.
Appreciate you @Novocrypto looks well researched and feasible. actually maybe staying at TWA Hotel in Feb. for my birthday.
If its a 3 day event culminating in party. I like it 100% more
Absolutely! So this AIP had its own purpose but wasn’t processed in time for NYE 2022. Now the whole idea is transforming into a “web3 builders Bootcamp”, in-depth networking and building together is its main utility, plus a finale party which is open to the outside world! Currently putting together the structure for the Bootcamp workshops and plenaries but can’t wait to share the proposal with you all asap. The date is envisioned in later Q3 2023.
Great to be connected! Love your ideas too! Very much aligned with what I’d like to see more of in this space 
so if Q3. not a NYE party. but more networking focus? Great!
Hi @ssp1111 … just putting this out there in re: “My own original idea was for a Web3 Village & Festival held in a “Park and Walk” venue in SoCal.”
Friend lives in Joshua Tree and L.A. and we’ve had an idea on the side burner for a long time of an artists/NFT/musicians’ village / retreat for creativity/working with periodic public events in the California desert - Joshua Tree or Salton Sea area.
He’s been a Burning Man, probably since Year 1, where he does similar things. The large geodesic dome structures are his, which are easy-ish to transport and erect in different places so a touring summer event has also been discussed. Basically DIY venues so needn’t be tied to the rules/costs of typical event venues. Friend has contacts with traditional venue(s) in Joshua Tree too.
Maybe there’s some mutual opportunity / assistance there at some point. If you ever think so, reach out.
@SandmanNY - awesome to find you here!
Heyo @br00no,
SoCal is my personal bias, that’s for sure. Love the desert venues too, however my event experience has mostly been mostly luxury brand activations versus Burning Man vibes. That said, we did put on something like an artistic village last year in Idyllwild that had a more homegrown aesthetic.
I’ve spoken to several teams that put on campgrounders and I think even the Kift project is adding festivals to their calendar. I’ll reach back out to them and see if there’s appetite and bandwidth, and if there is perhaps you and @SandmanNY could take a sorta lead in a future project.
Thanks for taking the time to post and connect, hopefully we’ll coordinate on some sort of IRL project and in the meantime see you in the Discords and Spaces.
By the way, are you in SoCal too?
SSP 
DM’d. Seems Sandman and I could know ppl in common, but I’m just a fan of his so happy to see him here. We go back to early NFT days on CH, before there was a floor price. 
Thanks for all you do.
I’m in Hudson Valley NY - Kingston. I’ve been to Burning Man 1999-2005 before moving to NY but have not been back …totally down for soCal as I have loads of friends there and the DIY aspect of a vibe sounds good can be supportive in ways but cannot take on leadership role at this time. I’m co curating a show with Museum of Crypto here in Kingston in July with local arts org and trying to get there twitter handle and account to promote and move forward
Loads of old friends still involved in the Burn, I know many OG people and knew Larry (he lived up the block from me in SF back in the day. so many have scattered across the country though and not involved in NFT as they are old school. but sure we could find ways to pull it off for sure
let me know how I might support and will do what I can… just have lots on my plate including renovating a house ask me about my upcoming book "How to build a house out of monkey jpegs
Happy to see such great work being put in for IRL events. Is anyone looking into the possibility of government sponsorship? Dubai officials may be interested in sponsoring events of this type.
Heyo DAYC,
No governmental sponsors yet, seems especially risky in the US and EU (maybe everywhere).
However, there could be an opportunity for this kind of sponsorship for a separate entity from the DAO, something like ApeCoin IRL 
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@Mantis is a Local Champion in Dubai – have you connected with him yet? He’s also active in IRL activations.
In the meantime, keep an eye out for the ApeCoin IRL proposal – I’m sure there’ll be an opportunity for the DAYC to get involved.
Cheers
SSP 
Yes, @Mantis was the one who turned DAYC on to the forums and to AIP-64. Let’s see what we can work out.
Thank you for the research SSP. It’s great to see some data behind the events. You can see recent drop in participation and interest in larger conferences and it does make sense that people want to continue to connect but within parameters of geo or special interests. Would it be ok for me to reference your data in a proposal I’m working on?