The DAO Needs Revenue

isn’t it contrary to the laid down principles of the DAO?

Not really because that would be a self encompassing AIP that uses a predefined fund and doesn’t restrict other AIPs from going through.

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nice idea , good to go with

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I 100% agree with you.

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this is the smartest aip idea ive heard!
100 agreed with you!

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For a number of reasons I cannot support this. I think it’s better to think in terms of value provided, as opposed to revenue generated. Something like education provides distinct value, without (necessarily) bringing back revenue. Should we prevent all such AIPs from going to vote as a result?

I agree that many AIPs seek to take without really adding any value back (be it revenue or meaningful value in other ways), but it’s on us to vote those down. Strictly preventing all AIPs that do not generate revenue feels like it may also prevent some incredible potential AIPs from ever going up to vote.

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We definitely need to have a balance, some ideas and projects will grow our community from the outside, some from the inside

I agree with @mattborchert

For example Maaria created an AIP to fund EthGlobal hackathons which will never return value to the DAO in the form of revenue but does bring in new talent and innovative ideas that can expand our horizens and community.

A good example is the recent EthGlobal Instanbul event where we saw a very cool concept being built called ApeFit. I came to the DAO via this very same path so I’m definitely an advocate for these initiatives. I saw @codingwithmanny presentation and loved it so reached out, we got chatting and discovered he’s very active in the Developer DAO and has a wealth of experience and expertise, he’s also a very cool cat.

I’d recommend checking out his project idea and seeing for yourselves. Can checkout his Twix post below.

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I agree with this concept for sure so I voted for this, but I think there should be exceptions so that it is not requirement that every single AIP generates revenue. I think right now the problem is, as your title states, the DAO needs revenue and is basically not seeking it. So I think probably the majority of new AIPs should be profit generating. However, I think there are plenty of legitimate AIPs that do not directly generate revenue and that this would be too limited as it is now

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Hi 12Gauge, let’s keep this open 7 more days. Thanks.

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as a bayc minter i agree with @Fuego we need balance between the proposals and cut aips requesting funds which doesnt give anything back to the dao.

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Wholeheartedly agree. The DAO needs a mechanism(s) to ensure long-term sustenance of operations and ecosystem.

I think authors will probably need a lot of help designing future proposals in how to make this happen. Maybe the Mentorship program that @AllCityBAYC recently had approved could help guide them. I’m also happy to help in whatever capacity that I can as well. :+1:

It will also be imperative that any such proposals are compliant in the broad set of complexities which exist in this still relatively new ecosystem, I bet @Waabam or @capetaintrippy can chime in with some pearls of wisdom when such proposals are being brought to the table. In due time, all in due process. :heart:

Really looking forward to seeing the next 50 AIPs come through, and how they factor long term DAO considerations into their proposal write ups. I imagine this will be a learning process for some of us, and an existing one which paves a path towards a strong future. :mechanical_arm: :gorilla:

Sponsoring hackathons is a tricky endeavour, I’m sure @maariab had her work cut out for her over there. I competed (and won, see our awards ceremony presentation at 1:28:07 here) at ETH Denver earlier this year in the DAO & Community track and witnessed first hand the challenges that sponsors needed to overcome while dealing with competitors. :sweat_smile:

As a hackathon competitor/winner, the feedback I received from follow up investors was consistent. Most hackathon projects do not turn into successful ventures. The premise of a short term event is much different than an intentional company being formed, which is directly reflective in the lower success rates of those teams whipped together for the purpose of a fun exploration into the short-term nature of a hackathon project.

It means capital investors are even more hesitant towards funding a hackathon project than they are towards a startup. And without early funding, startups are in an even more difficult position. A hackathon startup is akin to a ‘friends and family’ round of investment, which comes well before the ‘Seed Stage’. Higher risk, higher reward generally speaking too though. Jayson Calacanis has been exploring $25k checks at the friends and family level through his Founder University program, which in many ways is a generally pioneering move for such a prominent fund to do.

That being said, some hackathon projects (such as mine) go on to generate success, and represent HUGE opportunities. I’d be curious to hear Maaria’s input on this topic and her plans moving forward :star_struck:

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