Glad to see that @12GAUGE popped up to share what they’re working on too - these are the sort of casual collisions that will help build more interconnected ideas together, rather than ideas working in silos.
Let us know what you guys come up with and don’t forget to integrate other ApeCoin products/services into your models (that make sense).
The single point of reference site exists in a proposal I’m putting together, and I’d certainly appreciate your help on it. Some things I’ve thought about, because I’ve been writing about this idea for months:
The single point of reference should include all projects that Apecoin funds, categorized by type
The site has the ability to be monetized, not just serve as a directory
The site is the endpoint of the grant process, i.e., everyone that receives an ApeDAO grant owes this site content and updates. The site is made into a KPM that’s baked into every proposal and agreed to by every grantee.
The proposal is here, and the site is “DAS” - (DAO aggregation site). Would certainly love your input here, because the proposal takes the “single point of reference” you talk about and has already integrated it into a greater system that includes funding and marketing.
The model for a “single point of reference” site in web3: Newgrounds (I’ve talked about this in posts months ago). It has music, games and movies, monetizes them all, and provides links to artists’ individual websites. You add web3 to that, include new sections for the podcasts, newsletters, NFT trading, fashion, vid shorts and other DAO-inspired stuff, and you’ve got DAS — an ApeDAO hub that’s a revenue stream and marketing supernova. Talk about attracting new builders!
The single point of reference = Web3 Newgrounds = DAS. LFG. What have I missed? Comment in the proposal and let’s work out the best version of this.
I’ve also previously emailed @Forj about this, seeing as he already does directory work, but they are understandably busy and this is probably not a priority for them.
- I know, I really got to work harder on my debating skills, as I really am rubbish ++ lol.
I have been following DPH proposal closely, and have tried to think of areas for improvement etc, but firstly it is very solid already, also you make changes to reflect comments after absorbing them, and like most people I guess with me IRL commitments always scupper my plans and I become time poor in an instant lol.
If I do come up with any ‘bangers’ I’ll defo DM you to discuss them for inclusion, and in the meantime if I see anything that I think could be tweaked possibly I will add comments on the document for your consideration.
(Yes, is a gmail email associated with the google account I use to access, you’re right.)
GL with this! It will be well deserved to get this passed!
Thanks so much for the engagement! Such a positive vibe!
As a interim suggestion, before more comprehensive solutions are developed (@12GAUGE - AIP-195, @BoredApeG , @Mantis DPH) and so something can be achieved in the interim.
I have written below what I would have found useful joining the DAO as a starting point. It should be a living document and those who can add to it as they wish. It could be live in the help section today subject to agreement obviously!
To give context it took me ages to find these links, sourcing them from all over the place! Hopefully now new joiners will find it easier to onboard with these links easily provided.
One of the key elements of the (free) platform is a DAO homepage that makes all of these resources easily discoverable for all members.
Catapult also includes an effortless onboarding flow where the community can educate new joiners on important context as they join, as well as containing powerful tools to help members to explore and connect with other members.
Since we last spoke with ApeCoin we’ve deployed with 9 new communities (including Krause House, Biconomy DAO, and groups in Bankless DAO) and it has been going really well. Would love to bring this awesome community in.
Will post an update on our AIP today but it just felt like it was worth flagging here too.
OK first of all, I am def interested in hearing more about this, gonna dive into the doc tmo. Needed to say that before I start diving into the meat of this thread.
I have to face the facts. I want to tell you how emphatically I agree with you, but I simply don’t have a strong enough grasp of the English language to say that without getting too intense (and it’s my only language.)
That being said, contextualization is, IMO, the single biggest obstacle to widespread DAO onboarding. It is so difficult to wrangle all the information necessary to understand the full context of proposals, let alone figure out how to get involved. This is true of almost every dao - the best most can do is just check the snapshot once or twice a week, because catching up with everything cooking is simply not feasible. We are certainly going to be getting more engagement as ApecoinDAO shifts into a higher gear, and this obstacle will only grow over time. This is especially when you consider how much info can be on a single thread, and some of the threads have over 150 comments - and that’s before you start looking at google docs of AIPs under construction, where professionals and enthusiasts can actually make massive contributions.
If you want to start gaming out some sort of way to create a living document to contextualize the DAO, I would very much like to be a part of that process. This is an area where ApecoinDAO could become a leader in the space, beyond just being a giant.
What apecomms and the gazette and literally everyone are doing is phenomenal, but I want to encourage developing something that is more like the shallow end of a pool.
My understanding is that this is a free tool we can use to make things work better. Seems a no brainer to use it, in the process of doing so we will learn a lot about the type of tools we need to get this DAO really humming. Good luck with the AIP!
@adventurousape Thanks! if you or anyone else has any links they think should be added, please let me know. Eventually this information will be put in a better place than a post on discourse, but the gathering of the information in one place is an important first step!
Many thanks! I know a lot of people are working on a lot of solutions in many ways.
I think the most impactful thing we can do today is to keep adding useful links in one location. As more comprehensive ideas are developed this one location will be overtaken. It is an interim, but I think effective solution.
I think the most useful way to help have an impact in the short term is add any links that you think would be useful. For example I just added @maariab 's delegation site that they are working on and the ApeTalent site that @holocronape has just launched. Both really great additions to the space!
I was thinking of creating an AIP in the next few days to vote on this matter but my idea was focused on creating a section on the official ApeCoin website with links to the projects already approved by the community, to serve as a point of reference and apart It helps to give visibility to these projects but it could be interesting to also be able to include other links of interest such as members of the council… etc.
I had thought that I could include a section in ApeTalent but I really think that it is not the appropriate place for it (since it would be mixing different things). Maybe have a specific official website for this issue? With that in mind, I think of AIPs like the one the Forever Apes team created about geolocation in IRL about street art.
How do you guys see it? @Brazy@12GAUGE