AIP-479: Coffee with Captain Powered by $APE on ApeChain

Noted and agreed.

Question for the community though is “what are the best ways to measure if this was a success?”

Our desires are not to enter into a 6 month partnership and move on, rather we’d like to enter into a long term relationship with this first AIP serving as proof of concept with our goal being to exceed all expectations of us and the value we’re able to deliver to ApeChain, the DAO and builders.

Open to ideas and suggestions for tracking results … that aren’t fluff and inconsequential.

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Thank you!

Have had a few conversations with community members that have helped … we’ll likely update with a specific ask later today.

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Well, that’s so very kind of you.

Did you hear about our $5.5M sponsorship of an F1 team? Do you know how we measured the success or failure of that one?

  1. Take a look at the treasury and deduct $5.5M from whatever number you see
  2. Take a look at the on-going performance of the F1 team
  3. Take a look at the on-going performance of the token since the AIP passed

Kidding aside, I would be shocked if there was any way to measure the success or failure of a Spaces on X, other than the average number of listeners over the span of the session. This is because X doesn’t track or show viewing metrics. I asked Elon about that awhile back; it’s probably time to go ping him about it again.

Go get @Lost . If he says he’s in, there’s your initial measure of success as far as the community is concerned. Not even kidding about that.

As to the span, the ask etc. I would go with a ThankApe model whereby you do a yearly ask, then come back for a renewal. Remember, this is a sponsorship gig; and so, your ask has to be commensurate with the reach of your show.

That said, the singular friction that I see is that a sponsorship tends to be a mention, visual etc. then the show goes on. With Spaces, it’s the same thing - and probably a link at the top to ApeCoin resources etc. So, there’s a chance that unless the show specifically has a segment about our community, it’s not likely to be attractive to the community of people who don’t go to your show anyway. And that’s why I had suggested a specific day or segment targeted at the community itself. How the regulars on your show react to that, is the risk you take - especially how long such a segment lasts, what day it’s on etc.

Remember, you’re dealing with a community that has traditionally voted down proposals like this - even when put up by people right here in the community. As I mentioned over in my community voting wallet proposal, the voting turnout has gone gone from poor to abysmal because very few even bother. So, you’re left dealing with whales, and the few influential wallets.

It’s going to be tough because at the end of the day, it all boils down to “trust me, bro” - and ofc, your name and credibility.

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IMO the actual best way to measure this is to use links that track actions, and try to get people to do specific things. Make an ApeCoin DAO forum account for example. Ideally it would track someone buying and/or using $APE. Whatever actions we deem to be a net positive for a sustainable ecosystem.

Alternatively just tracking impressions during $APE related segments. Much lower value, but exposure has value and would be a decent enough metric to track.

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Hi @CaptainZwingli ,

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Hi ApeCoin DAO Community,

@CaptainZwingli has requested to extend the community discussion period for this AIP idea. This topic will automatically close a further 7 days from now. We encourage the community to continue to engage in thoughtful discussions through constructive criticism, honest feedback, and helpful suggestions.

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Hi @CaptainZwingli ,

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  • A moderator will reach out to the author to finalize the AIP Draft. Upon receipt of the final Draft, we will review and provide instructions on the next steps.
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We look forward to hearing from you.

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Hi ApeCoin DAO Community,

@CaptainZwingli has completed editing their AIP Idea to be their AIP Draft.

This proposal has been assigned the AIP ID Number 479.

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-@Facilitators

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I love Coffee with Captain. Very reasonable ask + proven team. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Thank you for the support, Nova - greatly appreciated!

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Hi ApeCoin DAO Community,

Our team has reviewed and discussed @CaptainZwingli 's AIP Draft and have sent a list of initial questions. We await answers.

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Kind Regards,

-@Facilitators

Hi ApeCoin DAO Community,

@CaptainZwingli has responded to our questions and they are in our review once again.

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Hi ApeCoin DAO Community,

We have no further questions for @CaptainZwingli . This AIP is now under Administrative Review.

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This proposal is live for vote on Snapshot. The voting period closes 13 days from now at 9PM EST.

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Ask is very reasonable. What timezone or timezones do you plan to have the X spaces in?

They do them at 8am eastern every weekday. Although I think we should fine @CaptainZwingli $500 every time someone says “d1 athlete.”

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There’s always resistance for AIP that don’t include ApeCoin/Apechain. The problem with that is that it leads to not reaching out of our own eco chamber. You’re Spaces does this and it’s so important.
Web3 tech only works with Web2 marketing.
I’m Voting for this!

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