AIP-495: Organization of the Guinness World Record Attempt for the Largest Gin & Tonic During NFT Paris 2025

Sept 9th, 2024 Updates:

After discussions with our trainer, JasonJape, and several members of ApeCoinDAO, as well as completing the AIP course at Open Campus, we’ve decided to implement Plan B . While the overall direction of the project remains the same, we’ve made a few adjustments due to time constraints.

We’ve decided to forgo hosting the event at ApeFest, as we wouldn’t have enough time to properly and efficiently execute the project. Instead, we have chosen to move the event to Paris , which gives us more time for preparations and offers better media and promotional opportunities.

With the continued support of Yuga Labs members (Tina, Baron, Illa), this change in location still allows for strong support and connection to the ApeCoin ecosystem . The shift to Paris enables us to plan the execution of the project more thoughtfully while maintaining the core values and objectives of the initiative.

Why Paris?

Opportunities and Benefits of Moving the Event to NFT Paris

Moving our project from ApeFest to NFT Paris opens up a range of new opportunities that will further strengthen our initiative:

  1. Greater Flexibility with Time : NFT Paris gives us extra time to refine the project, ensuring better preparation from both logistical and promotional standpoints. Additionally, we are licensed by Yuga Labs under the MBA license , which allows us to officially present our GinApe during ApeFest 2024 in Lisbon. This event will allow us to promote our AIP-495 project and create new connections within the ApeCoinDAO community. Moreover, the community will have another opportunity to experience our gin, strengthening ties and engagement around the project and the ApeCoin brand.
  2. Media Exposure : Paris, as one of Europe’s key hubs, attracts the attention of global media and influencers within the Web3 and NFT spaces. Including our project in NFT Paris provides excellent opportunities for promotion and for reaching a wider audience.
  3. Enhanced Networking Opportunities : NFT Paris gathers leaders from the Web3 space, providing an opportunity to establish valuable contacts and collaborations that can lead to long-term benefits for ApeCoinDAO .

This strategic move maximizes both media exposure and long-term impact, ensuring our project aligns with the growth and visibility objectives for the entire ApeCoin ecosystem.

PROPOSAL TITLE:
Organization of a Guinness World Record Attempt for the Largest Gin & Tonic with the Support of ApeCoinDAO during the NFT Paris 2025 Event
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TEAM DESCRIPTION:

Mak Szczesniewicz : Founder of Raccoon Gin, holder of MBA License #00133 GinApe, CEO of Bielik Vodka, and CEO of Mak&Zack, with over 30 years of experience in the beverage and distribution sector. Member of the BoredApeYC, Mocaverse, Y00ts, and DFL clubs, and a promoter and builder of bridges between WEB3 and WEB2.

Taki Noob/Tarak Charfi : The new co-managing director at Wibit Sports has over 20 years of experience in sales management and business development. He holds a degree in business administration and has extensive knowledge of both the German and international markets. He has been actively involved in the Web3 space for several years, working on various blockchain projects. His experience includes collaboration with major tech companies, providing a solid foundation for implementing innovative projects within the ApeCoin ecosystem.

  • Taki Noob: Project manager, experienced in coordinating and executing complex IT and logistics projects.
  • Twitter: @TakiNoob1

Michael Dücker: Marketing and management expert.

André Liesenfeld: Sales specialist and project manager, specialized in organizing large-scale projects.

Advisor and Trainer Involvement:

Advisor and Trainer : Jason “Jape”
We are pleased to announce the involvement of Jason “Jape” as our official advisor and coach for AIP 495. Jason is a well-known figure in the ApeCoin community, recognized for his insightful strategies and commitment to supporting innovative projects. His experience and support will be crucial in navigating the complexities of organizing a successful side event at ApeFest.

Role and Contributions:

Strategic Support : Jason will provide strategic guidance on event planning and execution, drawing on his extensive experience in community-driven projects.
Networking Opportunities : Through his connections, Jason will help us collaborate with key partners such as Elite Apes and Mocavers, enhancing the prestige and reach of the event.

Promotion and Visibility:

With Jason’s endorsement, we anticipate increased media interest and community engagement, ensuring the event’s success and widespread coverage.

Mentorship:

As a mentor, Jason will support our team in decision-making processes, ensuring the highest standards of professionalism and innovation. Jason “Jape” is known in the ApeCoin community as someone who values anonymity, which does not hinder his active involvement and significant contributions to the development of projects. As the founder of Elite Apes and the author of AIP-314, Jason has substantial experience in creating and supporting innovative initiatives within the ApeCoin ecosystem.
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Jason’s involvement in organizing ApeFest 2023 in Hong Kong, where he worked with governmental institutions and private partners, highlights his ability to effectively advance community interests.
This collaboration is a key step in achieving our project goals, and we are confident that Jason’s involvement will significantly contribute to our success. We are grateful for his commitment and expertise, which have already proven invaluable.

PROPOSAL DESCRIPTION:

We propose organizing an official attempt to set the Guinness World Record for the largest Gin & Tonic during NFT Paris 2025 in Paris. This event aims to engage the ApeCoin DAO community, foster creativity and collaboration, and increase media presence for ApeCoin and the upcoming ApeChain. The project will also help promote the ApeCoin ecosystem, creating a platform for connecting with a broad audience interested in NFTs, blockchain, and modern technologies, with the support of ApeCoinDAO, BAYC, MAYC, YugaLabs, and Mocavers community members.

BENEFIT TO APECOIN ECOSYSTEM

  1. Strengthening ApeCoin and ApeChain Brand Awareness : The Guinness World Record event will capture significant media attention, amplifying the visibility of both ApeCoin and ApeChain . Through a comprehensive social media promotional campaign, this project will enhance the positive image of ApeCoin and its connection to the broader cryptocurrency ecosystem.
  2. Supporting Community Engagement : This project is designed to foster stronger relationships within the ApeCoin community, promoting collaboration and creativity. Initiatives like the 10k $APE Giveaway will serve as a catalyst for community engagement and increased participation among community members.
  3. Utilizing the Guinness Brand : Aligning the event with the globally recognized Guinness brand and using their logo will elevate the prestige of the project. This association will draw global attention, and the experienced Guinness team’s support in organizing the event will further enhance our project’s promotional impact.
  4. Long-Term Promotion through GinApe : Every bottle of GinApe will feature the Powered by ApeCoin” logo, providing 12 months of ongoing promotion for the ApeCoin brand on products sold worldwide. Additionally, 20% of gross revenue will be contributed to the ApeCoin DAO Treasury , providing tangible financial benefits to the DAO and its members.
  5. Mystery Box and Giveaway : These elements are key components of our promotional strategy. Both the Mystery Box and 10k $APE Giveaway are designed to boost community engagement and generate media buzz around the event and the ApeCoin brand.
  6. Cost Efficiency : It’s important to highlight that the cost of the gin and tonic itself accounts for only about 7% of the project’s total budget, with the majority of the investment focused on logistics, promotion, and event organization rather than the product itself.

DEFINITIONS:

  • Mystery Box : A 4321 special box containing two cans of special Gin & Tonic, a POAP certificate, an NFT, and other surprises.
  • POAP : Proof of Attendance Protocol, a digital certificate confirming attendance at the event.
  • Holo NFT : A digital certificate confirming receipt of the Mystery Box, assigned to the wallet of the Mystery Box owner.
  • NFT Certificate : An NFT certificate confirming participation in the event with the owner’s favorite NFT.

STEPS TO IMPLEMENT:

  1. Planning and Preparation Phase :
  • Start: May 1, 2024
  • End: December 31, 2024
  • Milestones:
    • Approval of the action plan
    • Obtaining necessary permits and licenses
  • Costs: 10,000 $ (organization, legal consultations)

KPIs :

  • Number of permits and licenses obtained (KPI: 100% of required permits)
  • Completion of preparations on time (KPI: 100% milestones achieved)
  1. Promotion and Marketing Phase :
  • Start: January 2, 2025
  • End: February 12, 2025
  • Milestones:
    • Launching the promotional campaign
    • Collaboration with influencers and partners
  • Costs: 20,000 $ (promotional materials, advertisements, collaborations)

KPIs :

  • Reach of the promotional campaign (KPI: 1 million views)
  • Number of engaged partners and influencers (KPI: 10 partners)
  • Interactions on social media (KPI: 50,000 interactions)
  1. Event Implementation Phase :
  • Start: February 13, 2025
  • End: February 14, 2025
  • Milestones:
    • Event site preparation
    • Event execution
  • Costs: 20,000 $ (venue rental, logistics, personnel)

KPIs :

  • Number of event participants (KPI: 300-500 participants)
  • Participant satisfaction (KPI: 90% positive feedback)
  • Success in setting the Guinness record (KPI: 1 record set)
  1. Summary and Reporting Phase :
  • Start: January 21, 2025
  • End: March 31, 2025
  • Milestones:
    • Collection and analysis of participant feedback
    • Preparation of the final report
  • Costs: 5,000 $ (reports, documentation)

KPIs :

  • Number of feedback collected (KPI: 300 feedbacks)
  • Timeliness of report preparation (KPI: 100% on time)
  • Event satisfaction rate (KPI: 90% participants satisfied)

PREPARATIONS:

  1. Coordination with Guinness World Records : Obtain official approval and support.
  2. Purchase of Materials :
  • Large container (approx. 2800 liters) for Gin & Tonic: Implementation within 4-5 weeks.
  • Protective cage and ramp: Production and delivery within 4-5 weeks.
  • Baskets for tonic and gin bottles.
  • Gin : Delivery within 3-4 weeks.
  • Tonic : Immediately available.
  • Mystery Box packaging : Implementation within 4-5 weeks, with magnetic closure.
  1. Event Promotion : Promote on social media platforms (X, YouTube, TikTok, Telegram) and among members of ApeCoin DAO, BAYC, MAYC, MBAs, and all Yuga Labs members.
  2. Engaging Influencers : Promote the event and ensure media coverage.

MOBILE FILLING PLANT:

  1. Organize Transport : Mobile filling plant to Paris (2-3 days).
  2. On-site Filling and Carbonation Costs : For cans.
  3. Transport Finished Drinks : To the logistics center in Hanover, Germany, for packaging into free Mystery Boxes and distribution to the community.
  4. Transport Alcohol from Germany to Paris and Back : To save on tax fees related to alcohol trade legislation within the EU.
  5. Registered Importer of Spirits and Beer in Germany : With immediate payment of alcohol tax upon import, always paid promptly.

MYSTERY BOX:

Each free box contains 2 cans of special Gin & Tonic, a special certificate, POAP, NFT, stickers, and surprises. The Mystery Box is a wonderful keepsake.

Why are we sending it by mail? Because we know that our friends often travel only with carry-on luggage.

EVENT DAY:

  1. Location : Paris, to be announced soon, discussions are already underway.
  2. Organization of snacks and drinks (both alcoholic and non-alcoholic).
  3. Ensure safety and hygiene , installation of a podium and support structures for the container.
  4. Conduct the world record attempt in the presence of Guinness representatives.
  5. Certificate presentation – celebration.
  6. Prepare the finished drink for canning on-site after the event.

FOLLOW-UP ACTIONS:

  1. Document the event on social media .
  2. Media promotion and auctioning memorabilia from the event for charity.
  3. Organize a giveaway with ApeCoinDAO members and prizes worth 10,000 ApeCoin.
  4. Pouring and canning the drink .
  5. Delivery to the warehouse in Hanover .
  6. Create free Mystery Boxes and send them by mail with special certificates with authenticity holograms, including POAP and NFT.
  • Staggered delivery dates after sending the Mystery Box will increase and strengthen media reach.

REPORTING EXPECTATIONS:

  1. Weekly progress reports published on the ApeCoin DAO forum and social media.
  2. Final report after the event, detailing results and achievements.

OVERALL COST:

Total amount requested from the ApeCoin Ecosystem Fund: $204,850 + 10,000 ApeCoin.

Four funding tranches have been requested: $65,000 upon approval, $84,850 In December 2024/Phase 2 & 3, $40,000 in February 2025/Phase 4, and $15,000 + 10,000 APE in March 2025/Phase 5.**

Budget Overview:

Kategoria Koszt ($)
Legal consultations and obtaining permits $5,000
Beverage materials $15,000
Large gin & tonic container with documentation $29,800
Collaboration with Guinness World Records $17,000
Advertising and marketing $17,800
Mobile Filling Station transportation $1,750
Mobile Filling Station operational costs $13,350
Container transport to and from Paris $8,000
Mystery Box with magnetic closure $26,700
Storage costs $3,600
Customs and tax fees $3,350
Support platform and structure $10,500
Social media documentation and reporting $2,650
Technical coordinator $250
Limited edition bottles and labels $4,500
Special certificates, smart contracts, NFTs $8,900
Contingency reserve $5,000
Planning and preparation $8,900
Event management $17,800
ApeCoin giveaway 10,000 APE

Total amount requested from the ApeCoin Ecosystem Fund: $204,850 + 10,000 ApeCoin.

EXPECTATIONS OF THE APE FOUNDATION:

1. Planning and Preparation Phase:

  • The ApeCoin Foundation will not be involved in acquiring legal permits, as these will be handled independently by the project team.

2. Promotion and Marketing Phase:

  • We request the Ape Foundation’s assistance in promoting the event on official ApeCoin channels to enhance community reach and engagement. Collaboration with media partners and influencers is also part of our marketing efforts.

3. Event Execution Phase:

  • We request an Ape Foundation representative to attend the event to provide on-site support and coordination. Their presence will help monitor the event’s progress and ensure compliance with the plan and safety standards. This is optional.

4. Summary and Reporting Phase:

  • We ask for guidance and assistance in distributing the final report and gathering participant feedback. The Ape Foundation can also support us in analyzing results and drawing lessons for the future.

SALES AND ROI:

Product Line:

  • Commemorative Bottles: A limited edition of bottles containing exclusive gin, produced specifically for our event, with the ApeCoin logo and Guinness World Record logo, each with embedded Holo NFT.

Revenue Distribution:

  • 20% of gross revenue from the sale of the limited-edition bottles and every GinApe bottels over the next year will be directed to the ApeCoin DAO Treasury. This will help fund DAO initiatives and support its long-term growth.

LIMITED EDITION STRATEGY:

We will limit the production of exclusive commemorative bottles to maintain exclusivity and enhance their appeal.


GIVEAWAY:

Goal : To increase community engagement, which will translate into media publicity and enhance the reach of ApeCoin and ApeChain.

Prize Pool:

Rank Prize (ApeCoin)
1 5,000
2 2,000
3 1,000
4 500
5 400
6 300
7 200
8 100
9 50 APE x 5
10 25 APE x 10

Total prize pool for the giveaway: 10,000 ApeCoin (for 23 lucky winners).

Total project cost: $204,850 + 10,000 ApeCoin.

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Join us on this exciting adventure and help us set a new Guinness World Record. Together, we will show the world the strength and unity when we come together, while also strengthening and promoting the ApeCoin DAO community! The funds received will be used to cover event costs and bring no material gain to the organizing team.

UPDATED TEXT FOR AIP INCLUSION, INCLUDING TIMELINE, FUNDING TRANCHES, AND CONSULTATIONS:

  1. Implementation Timeline and Milestones

Phase 1: Planning and Preparation (May 2024 – December 2024)

•	Approval of the action plan
•	Obtaining necessary permits and licenses
•	Collaboration with Guinness World Records
•	Ordering structural calculations
•	Commissioning the production of the tank
•	Cost: $65,000
•	Payment tranche date: Beginning of November 2024
•	KPIs:
•	Obtaining 100% of required permits
•	Approval of the action plan
•	Ordering structural calculations and starting the production of the tank

Phase 2 and 3: Promotion, Marketing, and Technical Preparations (December 2024 – February 2025)

•	Launching the promotional campaign on social media
•	Collaboration with influencers and partners (production of MysteryBox, holo NFT)
•	Organizing the $10,000 APE giveaway
•	Technical preparation of the event venue
•	Production and delivery of cans
•	Payment for the tank
•	Cost: $84,850
•	Payment tranche date: Beginning of December 2024
•	KPIs:
•	Campaign reach: 1 million views
•	10 influencers and partners involved in the promotion
•	150,000 – 200,000 interactions on social media
•	100% technical readiness of the event venue
•	Cans production and delivery completed on time
•	Payment for the tank completed on schedule

Phase 4: Event Execution (February 2025, NFT Paris)

•	Event venue preparation
•	Event execution, Guinness World Record attempt
•	Cost: $40,000
•	Payment tranche date: Beginning of February 2025
•	KPIs:
•	Number of participants: 300-500 people
•	Guinness World Record set

Phase 5: Summary and Reporting (March 2025)

•	Gathering and analyzing participant feedback
•	Preparation of the final report
•	Cost: $15,000 + 10,000 APE
•	Payment tranche date: Beginning of March 2025
•	KPIs:
•	Minimum of 300 feedbacks collected
•	Timely preparation of the report (100% on time)
  1. Project Budget

Total project cost: $204,850 + 10,000 APE

Phase Payment Date Amount
1 - Planning and Preparation Upon Approval $65,000
2 & 3 - Promotion, Marketing, and Technical Preparations December 2024 $84,850
4 - Event Execution February 2025 $40,000
5 - Summary and Reporting March 2025 $15,000 + 10,000 APE

EXPECTATIONS FROM THE APE FOUNDATION:

1.	Planning and Preparation Phase:

The ApeCoin Foundation will not be involved in obtaining legal permits, as this will be handled independently by the project team.

2.	Promotion, Marketing, and Technical Preparations Phase:

We request the Ape Foundation’s assistance in promoting the event on official ApeCoin channels to enhance community reach and engagement. Collaboration with media partners and influencers is also part of our marketing efforts. Additionally, this phase includes technical preparations for the event and payment for the tank.

3.	Event Execution Phase:

We request the optional and voluntary presence of an ApeCoin Foundation representative at the event to provide on-site support and coordination. This presence will help monitor the event’s progress and ensure compliance with the plan and safety standards.

4.	Summary and Reporting Phase:

We ask for guidance and assistance in distributing the final report and gathering participant feedback. The ApeCoin Foundation can also support us in analyzing results and drawing lessons for the future.


ADDITIONAL RESOURCE REQUIREMENTS FOR CONSULTATIONS:

In Phase 1, we have included $65,000 for legal and administrative consultations, which should cover all expenses related to obtaining permits. Resources for marketing consultations are included in the promotion phase ($30,000). Additionally, $17,000 is allocated for the collaboration with Guinness World Records.

Total Project Cost: $204,850 + 10,000 ApeCoin.

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Let’s go, apes!
We count on you to make this event an unique experience for all of us at apefest. We will break Snoop Dog‘s Guiness World Record of the biggest gin :muscle:
It’s not the ginape world record, it is the world record of all apes. Everyone will participate and receive an official Guiness certificate + a mystery box with surprises :gift:

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I can’t wait! Soon, the APE Community will attempt to break a Guinness World Record and celebrate together in Lisbon. It’s going to be an incredible joy and so much fun! :cocktail:

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I am happy to present and share our idea with you. Along with my team, we have been working on this project since our meeting at Apefest in Hong Kong, where Gin Ape had its inauguration. We are open to any questions and feedback. We have strived to make the presented AIP transparent and readable. Our goal is to achieve global recognition, as such HYPE is a very powerful media tool. For the first time in the history of Crypto DAO, it will be significantly involved in an official Guinness World Record attempt. Apecoin DAO will become more recognizable. The advertising and promotional opportunities are limitless.

Each of us dreams of seeing a positive surge in the value of our APE Coin. We eagerly await Apechain, where we will all be able to work together.

Our Gin Ape, licensed under MBA #00133, will play a one role in this endeavor.

What do you think should be improved to encourage more people to join?

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I don’t see a single reason why any of this will work via Gin and Tonic when millions of $ape worth of sponsorship hasn’t done anything. F1 is an even greater event compared to being written in World record books, and a record that can be easily broken if any liquor company decide to do a large scale campaign.
Tho I agree that this is some unique, crazy and bold. I mean seeing a damn large container filled with happy juices is dream but I dont see how it benefits Apecoin in anyway if you consider “breaking world record” or simply being in a poster for such an event.
Other thing I see being weird is POAP, which itself is a proof of being somewhere, followed by Holo NFT, which again is the proof, and then comes a certificate showcasing owner’s fav NFT. NFT itself is a proof that someone has that particular token. On title this looks good but practically seems like a crypto layman drafted all of this.

And I’m writing a bit harsh words coz the amount of votes it has is concerning coz most seems like bots who recently joined. So maybe trying to look like the community is interested.

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Gm gm Evil,
First thanks for your critical comment. It’s not harsh, you’re completely right being sceptical and asking questions. Apecoin is our all baby and we as a community decide what to do with it :slight_smile:
As the PM of the project, let me answer your questions.
First and most important thing. I can guarantee you, that we are not paying any bots or whatever to create hype or interest. We are all apes and well known in the ape family. Our founder Mak and the team is on all events (apefest Hongkong, nft Paris, nfc Lisbon, nftfest Brussels) representing the brand. For the preparation, we discussed with yuga (Tina, Illa, Baron and many people from ApecoinDao). We are real Degens, not bots :robot:
To your comparison to F1 sponsoring. It’s not exactly the same. Our record attempt will be a great event for all apes together. Every ape will participate, receive a certificate and mystery box. It will be fun. Will it benefit apecoin: I mean the more exposure irl, the better the chances to show the world that apecoin is more than a memecoin for apes.
At the end, we have to try. That’s what web3 stands for. That’s why we have the apecoinDAO. To support MBA‘s and help creating some noise around apecoin and bayc.
We will do different twitter spaces (and AMA) within the next weeks to discuss ideas. You’re also welcome to join our discord or dm any of us to discuss.
Cheers,
Taki

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Evil Bro! :wave:t2:
You’re confusing the community with bots, my congratulations. :tada:
It’s a pity that you underestimate Makash who has been running a successful business for many years. This business has a supportive community, contacts, etc. that’s why it can function for so long time.

Now you will see your “bots” turn into real people :wink:

Have a wonderful day :handshake:t2::sun_with_face: additionally I wish You more understanding and less judging.

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Hi Mak

Can You tell us more about Holo NFT ? I searched through many NFT markets and found nothing about.

Please share this secret with us.
Thanks in advance :handshake:t2::fire:

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Hi Gregor
Nice of you to ask, but the best here will be
@aliesen
This is a super innovative NFT - traveling :slight_smile:

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don’t let me ask again

Please tell us more about Holo NFT🤩

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I think this is a cool and fun idea, and a part of the ethos of Web3 is definitely to have some disruptive fun with a diverse group of people who are brought together based on an ideology rather than some other bonding force, such as nationalism, religion, or politics. I think it’s great that the funds will only be used for the event costs and not as team compensation. That says a lot about your commitment to doing big things just for the excitement and community building.

I push back a little, however, on the idea that this shows “strength and unity” to the world. This appears to be - no disrespect intended - essentially an advertising stunt; a paid promotion for a brand with no post-event metrics to see how many new people visited the website, joined the forum, or voted on AIPs. Though it might be time-consuming, is there a possibility of figuring out how many people are engaged through this event? Also, I didn’t fully understand the idea of having cash (APE) prizes for 83 lucky winners or how they “win”. What about the idea of giving out maybe a few Apecoin to thousands of people instead?

Sorry for any negativity here. I think this is a fun idea and I applaud the inventiveness of it! I personally think that the coolest part of it (and the advertising power) is winning the Guiness World Record and that you could potentially cut out all the POAP and NFT stuff, save a bunch of money, and still have a comparable event that achieves the targeted goals.

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I love anything that goes for the world record-breaking
of whatever the world record is to break…takes ZEAL
and of course Mutated IN-sanity ;). :test_tube: :test_tube:

if I May, just question a tiny something on my mind with this…

How much money should be, or is being spent on alcohol, directly from the DAO’s treasury?

$180,000 -ish sounds like a lot for a one and done type of deal… :beers:

I don’t know this for sure, but many long lasting companies / efforts could utilize a quarter Million dollars of funding…that would/could build past the ‘last call’ of the festival…opportunity cost is a a thing, especially on a collective’s depleting funds… We must make our choices wisely as venture entrepreneurs.

and what if the Vat isn’t emptied? You lose the record if its not all drank? :drooling_face: :pouring_liquid:

I may have got confused by the numbers, and what’s actually going on here but… to clarify you are asking for money from the direct treasury of the ApeCoinDAO treasury to buy alcohol and perform a chance of a media stunt and world record?

Or are the alcoholic beverages that are being served going to being provided by sponsors?
…whom by the way would also gain greatly, maybe more so from doing this deed? have you approached any others to take this on?

Given that, there’s alcoholic sponsors All over the place, for many things and would most likely jump at this!! :kangaroo:

[referring to those separate from the company this is aimed at promoting,
which I assume is Ape Based?.] The ending says no one of you will benefit from this? I hope that you do, that is what business is about. Furthering my viewpoint that this may not be worth the price tag. :coin: :heavy_dollar_sign:

Also It might be a good thing to further itemize out the alternative methods or extra ways that private companies or internal supporters could pitch into a party they are attending…

As it seems advantageous to all involved, or in the business, as a more relevant sponsorship opportunity for advertising. :placard:

or maybe I’m misunderstanding it all
… but the numbers make me have a hangover from reading, what else is being done / or eaten / drunk by event goers? are they all involved in the world record?
or perhaps is their a willing private alcohol sponsor providing the majority of the alcohol …
or is it an affiliate brand ? :beers: :clinking_glasses: :wine_glass: :cocktail: :baby_bottle:

I fully apologize for my naivety to this situation, I just figured it was worth speaking my mind on this one, just to get to know you all a little bit better as I’m still new around here.

More relevant to my point here is my plan on utilizing this platform for a very serious business that me and my colleagues have been trying to launch. :business_suit_levitating: :business_suit_levitating:

it just makes me worried that if things like this could pass now, then by the time we are ready to pitch there might not be enough money for us to start what our dreams are about… or would cause stricter barriers of process down the line.
Ya know? :grimacing::v:

I have looked at the treasury dashboard … all I see is money going out.:point_down:

It doesn’t seem like this would bring any worthwhile cash flow for the assets its dissolving (at leasr in a tangible immediate way, and during a pivotal market point, that 180,000 could be worth wayyy more if held onto in the asset it stands in).:moneybag:

Although attention is money as I proclaimed in my comment in :eyes::eyes::eyes:eyes are :moneybag::moneybag:
AIP-457: The Public Bored - Phase 2.
The competition for attention is real;
but not all attention yields a profit… :balance_scale:

Promotions like this do not have a good referenceable KPI to measure the potential revenues, it might generate. Which KPIs would you employ to stab at measuring the effectiveness here?

Furthermore seeing as each Ape Business is independent, there’s fragmentation a foot, so the targeted customer from this stunt would probably not be funneled, thru the correct marketing methods in order to turn a profit, or measure benefits from any obtained customers this might drive. :money_with_wings:

Also Buying a Bored Ape NFT, only helps the BUYER, it is not an investment in the brand. As its a commodity of art and membership to an awesome club… it does not produce direct benefits to the ecosystem when another APE is bought, and therefore ALSO sold.

Is a person a part owner in DOLE shares, when they buy a barrel of bananas? :banana: :banana: :banana:

  • (rhetorical and a-PEEL-ing question to peel back some layers of this onion making me cry) :-p

I’m sorry to say that I do not like this also because I am super mindful that 1 day…(soon) I’m going to be submitting a Formal AIP, a dream of mine … a few years in the making, and with depleting treasury, looks like I will be directly competing for these amounts of money,
however we will not be drinking it away, nor putting it toward any kind of intangible gamble.

  • wagers of a few different types are going on here…with this. :game_die: :game_die:

I Really do wish I could come, sounds fun !!!
I shall for sure be at an upcoming IRL event hopefully, very soon.

I was just wondering on the process of proposing things like this, to a business DAO like this. I understand fully the business nature of this, don’t get me wrong.

I also understand all events are an expensive ordeal.
I just wanted to ask for some clarity, for my own selfish knowledge…

And to also use this as an way to display that I am a deep thinking individual, which sometimes chooses the unpopular viewpoint. :writing_hand:

Are there any other sponsors or supporters that would/could/should be willing to take care of portions of alcoholic bills, structures for building a wild west saloon’s water tower?? (lol) :cowboy_hat_face:

As well as other parts of the events expenses? as to lighten the load of the Bill that the DAO / Collective must fork over? :fork_and_knife:

Not against this at all just asking questions learn my way around what is acceptable around here, and what needs to be in place for things like, to actually get approved and go down… were all here to clown around and flip browny frowns upside down, but why on the beloved DAOs dime?

Still getting my feet wet, as I am about 5 weeks into coming in here regularly and networking, and realizing i love to think about stuff that’s in this forum. Even though I have been in NFTs since 2021 but still somehow missed the BAYC mint, :frowning:

I find myself here more and more thinking, networking, and bantering.

i just appreciate the opportunity and love to meet all of you and put our Banana Brainz together… thinking of putting together a medium sized ApeCoinDAO Delegation, so this is also practice on thinking thoroughly thru proposals. (something I hope that the DAO values). :brain:

Also not asking in a
“karen-like” tone … “why are you buying alcohol with the group’s money?”
LOL i get it.
But I am wondering,
about things like this in terms what is allowed… for context …
… Some of the businesses "The MadBananaUnion" is involved with, could possibly maybe be related to a few cannabis ventures, so would like to know what parameters are acceptable for the levels of putting “edgy” things on the “company card”…
could we ask the DAO to pay for everyone’s personal Blunts, at a Cannabis cutting event? :shamrock:

Anyway, Breaking the world record of anything that the Apes smash thru will for be a cool historical moment and further solidify the Ape legacy in modern culture and digital business.

Down to party with you all, soon!
Maybe I shall propose the world’s biggest joint smoking session provided by $APE sales.
lol jkjk.
much love.
-MonkeyMike :monkey: :banana: :earth_asia: :fist:

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Dear MonkeyMike,

Thank you for your thoughts and questions regarding our proposal to set a Guinness World Record at ApeFest 2024. We share your passion for unique and ambitious projects.

Alcohol Costs and Financing
The alcohol will be provided by us, specifically from Gin Ape. This is also a promotion for our MBA. We have presented the full costs incurred, with no profit from this event. Here’s the breakdown:

  1. Purchase bottles in Germany.
  2. Ship bottles to Poland.
  3. Wash and prepare bottles.
  4. Produce gin.
  5. Fill and label bottles.
  6. Present costs to customs office.
  7. Open and print EAD (Electronic Administrative Document).
  8. Transport bottles back to Germany.
  9. Storage.
  10. Close EAD.
  11. Pay alcohol tax.
  12. Hand process - banderole and cork sealing.
    Our Gin Ape is a craft product. All these steps are necessary to comply with EU regulations on the sale and distribution of alcohol. Each stage is documented and transparent.

Your Comment on Alcohol Sponsors
Indeed, other sponsors might seize such an opportunity, providing alcohol and leveraging the promotion to build excellent PR. We, too, will benefit, but with ApeCoinDAO in mind. Each bottle will have additional information on the label powered by ApeCoin, and we will honor only APE as a crypto payment, awaiting ApeChain to implement this fully.

Long-term Benefits
Value for ApeCoin: Our goal is not just a one-time event but to build long-term brand awareness and value for ApeCoin. Organizing such an event will attract media attention, translating to free advertising and increased interest in ApeCoin and its market presence. This event can also attract new investors and enthusiasts interested in unique initiatives in the crypto world supported by ApeCoin.

Regarding the KPIs you asked about, we will be able to answer post-event. We are all responsible for DAO and KPIs as they define our collective engagement.

KPIs:

  • Social Media Reach: Number of views, shares, comments, and likes on posts related to the event.
  • Number of Participants: Number of people present at the event and online participants.
  • Community Engagement: Number of interactions from ApeCoin DAO members (posts, comments, votes).
  • Media Coverage: Number of press articles, media mentions, and interviews.
  • ApeCoin Value Growth: Change in ApeCoin value before and after the event.
  • New Members Acquisition: Number of new users and community members post-event.

Thanks, Mike!

You just gave me a great idea @Taki , we need to discuss this and maybe implement it.

Sales and ROI:
This means the number of products sold related to the event and the excellent opportunity for partial ROI to ApeCoin DAO. I propose a 20% gross revenue to the DAO treasury and introducing a limited number of commemorative bottles containing Holo NFT. We’ll work out the details and come back with a proposal for quantity. :blush:

Innovation and Recognition:
As you rightly pointed out, few DAOs operate this way. Why in Portugal and during APEFEST? Portugal actively supports the introduction of cryptocurrencies to the awareness of its citizens and promotes economic innovation, as exemplified by NFC Lisbon. This gives us a unique opportunity to increase the recognition of ApeCoin in this region and worldwide. It’s a highly media-friendly topic.

Rewards and Participation Proofs:
Giveaways with APECOIN are designed to encourage the community to promote APECOIN and the event, not to promote Gin (due to separate alcohol advertising regulations – hence we don’t loudly mention the gin name). Our goal is to provide participants with unique, collectible proofs of attendance that will have long-term value. POAP (Proof of Attendance Protocol), Holo NFT, and certificates are meant to increase participant engagement and offer more than just a standard experience. POAP is a keepsake that stays in the wallet forever, Holo NFT will be assigned to the MysteryBox confirming ownership, and the Guinness World Record certificate can be hung on the wall as a unique souvenir.

Transparency and Authenticity:
Transparency and authenticity are crucial for us. We encourage you to check us thoroughly.

Openness to Discussion:
I am here and now open to any discussion. I invite everyone to collaborate. Maybe you have more ways to help ensure authenticity and real community engagement.

Summary:
Thank you for pointing out these issues. As a team, we are open to further discussion and cooperation to make our project as beneficial as possible for the ApeCoin community. We believe that together we can achieve something unique and unforgettable.

You mentioned NFTs and BAYC, and that you missed the purchase (I also missed the BAYC Mint), but I did everything to be one of the APE. I personally have a few MAYC and can tell you it’s an amazing community, supporting each other, combining forces, and moving forward.

Thank you for your time and great questions. Best regards, Mak

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GM GM Gregor , sure :gift: great question
a Holo-NFT is really something special! Imagine you have a bottle, can, or mystery box with a cool hologram on it – that’s the physical side of the NFT.

When you mint this Holo-NFT, the fun really begins. You can pass it on as a “Floating-NFT,” but you don’t have to. It’s totally optional! The cool part? Others can claim it and take it over. It’s almost like a little game: who gets the NFT next? This makes the whole thing super dynamic and interactive!

Unlike other NFTs like POAP (Proof of Attendance Protocol), which are more focused on digital presence, this Holo-NFT is specifically designed for the physical element. Whether it’s a bottle, can, or mystery box, it’s all about connecting the NFT with a real, tangible object. This brings various NFTs to life in a whole new way.

Now, the technical part: Holo-NFTs are not standard NFTs like ERC-721 tokens. Instead, they are based on the ERC-6551 standard. This behaves like a regular NFT but has some cool features. With ERC-6551, you can create a super dynamic game because the owners can change very quickly. Imagine you can pass the NFT around, but you always need the physical object to use it. This creates a unique interplay between digital and physical ownership that makes Holo-NFTs so special.

With traditional NFTs, like POAP or ERC-721, the NFT is tied to your wallet, and you have to actively pass it on and send it if you want someone else to own it. However, with a Holo-NFT, the “owner” can always claim the NFT and bring it into their wallet. It remains tied to the physical asset. Thats so cool and fun :grinning:

Think of it like high-end clothing or a valuable painting. Normally, you could separate the NFT from the physical item and sell them separately. With a Holo-NFT, that’s not possible. The owner of the physical object is also the owner of the NFT. This ensures that digital and physical ownership always stay together.
Best André

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This is really something new in the NFT world, NFT ownership based on ownership of a physical item. I really really like this idea, it’s fresh, original and introduces a connection between the virtual and real world.
Brilliant solution, well done :fire::muscle:t2:

Cheers :clinking_glasses:

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This is actually one of the more established use cases for NFTs. Typically used in collectable cards and high-end watches, but we’ll see it spread more and more. Many sites already offer this service, like Kettle (luxury watches) and The Colony (higher end collectables) on Blast.

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yes :slight_smile:
Exactly you need to develop

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Hi Mattborchert

I haven’t seen this kind of use of NFTs yet, apparently I haven’t been in the NFT market for long.
Thank You for your specific answer.

Cheers :clinking_glasses:

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hi @MonkeyMike.eth

as you can see we are working and making changes
attached what we have added
and we are very happy that there are people who give their time

Sales and ROI:Organization of the Guinness World Record Attempt for the Largest Gin & Tonic During ApeFest 2024 in Lisbon**

That sounds like a dope idea, count me in for cheers with the fam in Lisbon!:clinking_glasses:

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